Inner Peace w/ Dr. Reese
April 4, 2021

The Gene Keys w/ Richard Rudd

The Gene Keys w/ Richard Rudd

In episode # 92, Dr. Reese sits down with Richard Rudd, the author of the famous book, The Gene Keys. They talk about the book and the 64 codes of consciousness. They also shine the light on the art of contemplation and how it can change our lives. Other topics include; the law of attraction vs the law of unseen grace, death, the 7 sacred seals, and Richard's mystical experience that he had in his late 20's. 

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Dr. Reese (00:01:06):
Welcome to the podcast.

Richard Rudd (00:02:16):
Thank you, Kevin. Nice to be here.

Dr. Reese (00:02:19):
So how would you describe the gene keys?

Richard Rudd (00:02:24):
Lots of different ways of, of describing it. Um, this morning I described it as a, as a kind of spiritual technology, um, the, a technology of transformation, um, because it has so many, um, access points and it has so many different ways in which you can use it the most common way in which people will use it is, um, using the what's called a profile, your profile, which you get from your, you know, from your date of birth. Um, but there's only one in many ways. So it's a, it's a body of wisdom that, um, allows you to go on, you know, multiple journeys of transformation. And, um, as you may know, it's quite a, it's quite a dense body of wisdom. So there's a lot of, um, there's a lot to get to grips too. Um, but there are a lot of different pathways to suit different people and their learning styles. Um, and yeah, essentially it's a, it's a, it's a means of personal transformation to bring about, um, enhanced states of harmony and consciousness and to help us, you know, understand who we are, why we're here and where we're going individually and as a species.

Dr. Reese (00:03:38):
Yeah. You know, to me, it seems like you've, you've taken Eastern mysticism and you've created a, a quite brilliant system out of it. Uh, a way to find truth being this Is this necessary for Westerners who aren't really into mysticism. They, they don't understand it, or they're scared of it.

Richard Rudd (00:04:08):
I guess a, a lot of people, I mean, there's, there's two tiers of people really. Aren't there. Not really, not that they're above each other, but there's the, the group of people who are interested in where they come from and their, and have a sense of, I guess you could say being more than just a physical body, you know, a spiritual being perhaps, and, and there are lots of different obviously beliefs that people have in that group. Um, but then the other group, uh, I don't know if that's who you are talking about, people who, um, aren't sure. Or, uh, or just believe that we, you know, this is a material universe and that we are here by chance and, um, the adopt the prevailing scientific P paradigm. And I'm not sure whether the genies is so much for those people. <laugh>, um, because you need a little bit of curiosity to just come in the door.

Richard Rudd (00:05:06):
So those who are curious, uh, it's definitely worth a look under the hood. Um, and it's worth, you know, asking someone who's, who's involved in it, what the experience has been for them. So, yeah, I think it's, it is available for everyone, but this it's, it's, it's more targeted for the group, I guess, for that group of people who are already searching, um, uh, because it, it allows it and that's a large group of people on the planet. Um, but it, it helps Quicken their process and it helps them ultimately I think, serve the planet in a more powerful way and perhaps reach some of those others who, um, you know, because you need a certain language and you need, you know, as you all know, you know, you need certain credentials to be able to crack the, the, the kind of scientific paradigm and mysticism.

Richard Rudd (00:06:04):
Um, although I layer in, you know, certain, you know, kind of scientific truths and I have a, a good awareness of those things, um, I am essentially a poet and a mystic. So I appeal to that other side of our nature, I think, and the teachings are really kind of aimed in that direction. So it's never really been my journey to try and convince people, you know, it's, um, if you're, if you're curious in the beginning, then that's a really great start then, you know, you can bring in the journey of transformation right away. So I dunno if that's an answer, but some kind of an answer,

Dr. Reese (00:06:40):
What made you call it the gene keys?

Richard Rudd (00:06:43):
Um, because it's, you know, this, the essence of gene keys is it's based on a code it's based on a universal code. That's, you know, come from the Chinese eing originally. Um, so that's where it has that Eastern component you mentioned. Um, and that, that work, the eing is a, is a kind of binary system, uh, that has a real mathematics to it. And, you know, because it's a, for, it's a set of formulas, it's actually a set of algorithms for life. You know, that's really what it is, the algorithms of life itself. And so even though it was discovered thousands of years ago and, or intuitive, and it's been developed by the Chinese, it also exactly matches many other systems you look at. So it has these 64, as you know, probably has these 64 fold structure. And, um, those codes are built out of, um, what are called hexagrams in the original, right, which are kind of archetypes, mathematical archetypes.

Richard Rudd (00:07:44):
And, you know, that have layers of meaning and can be translated in lots of different ways, practical ways. Um, but the, the maths of it actually is exactly the same as the maths that runs our genetic code. So that's why, you know, because that's also built out of sixes and, and triplets and 64 code ons, and the same maths is, is inherent in both systems. It's also there in other systems as well, like, um, the musical octaves and, um, the fire ratio, which you find in geometry and in nature. And, um, and it's actually the basis of why we're talking to each other right now, because it's 64 bit technology is actually the driving force underlying, you know, our modern computer systems. So it actually is a formula that's embedded at many levels within creation. Mm-hmm <affirmative>. So that's why I named it, the gene keys, because their codes that specifically us into our, in a world and how we're made up.

Richard Rudd (00:08:46):
Um, but it's a, it's a poet, it's a poet's view of DNA in a way. And I'm very open about that. It's, you know, I'm not claiming to be a pseudoscience or anything like that. It's a journey and the journey you've gotta take the journey rather than analyze the journey. So you've gotta take the journey and then you understand it from inside it. Um, so yeah, it's, it's, that's kind of how it works. You've gotta come and try it. You've gotta do one of the programs or you've gotta, you know, apply one of the techniques to your life and then it comes alive. Yeah.

Dr. Reese (00:09:22):
So there's, so there's 64 codes of consciousness.

Richard Rudd (00:09:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dr. Reese (00:09:28):
Now, Y there's gene key readings, what does someone get from that gene key reading? They, you said, you mentioned the profile.

Richard Rudd (00:09:40):
Yeah. There's a profile and there are people out there doing readings. Yeah. Doing kind of, you know, um, sessions. I personally don't do that. Um, I've set up, uh, because I, I, my feeling behind it is that the real empowerment through any wisdom is if you can grasp it yourself and although it can be a great beginning, it can be a great help at the beginning cuz you, you are, you have someone, a guide who can like show you how to read the map, which is useful. And um, but essentially you can do it yourself. So, uh, in the programs I've created online. So if you, you actually are taken step by step through layers of understanding once you've got your profile. Hmm. Um, and you can look at it and obviously you'll use the main genies book, which is my big book, you know, which I wrote, um, you know, 20 years ago, um, or around that, which is kind of like the manual, um, to help understand each key and how you can use and understand your specific keys to enact a transformation in your life. You know? So it's all about a, a deeper awareness of how you operate and particularly of the things that cause you pain and suffering. Yeah. Um, because that's, uh, you know, that's where it begins. It begins with what we call, what I call the shadow, you know, the shadow, which is our, you know, the

Dr. Reese (00:11:04):
Shadow work.

Richard Rudd (00:11:05):
Yeah, exactly.

Dr. Reese (00:11:07):
Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's part of going inside and, and getting it done, doing the work. It is,

Richard Rudd (00:11:13):
It is,

Dr. Reese (00:11:17):
Are you prepared to be talking about the Jean keys for like the rest of your life? Because isn't it interesting how somebody puts out a book it catches on, but it takes so many years. I mean, people are being introduced to Eckhart toll for the first time. Right now his power of now book is what, almost 30 years old, the four agreements, you know, Don MI, Miguel Ruiz, you know, these books, they they're, they're going decades. This seems like something that's going to go decades in long past your time on earth.

Richard Rudd (00:11:57):
Yeah. I think it probably will. I had that feeling when I finished the book and you know, it took a long time to write that book seven years or so. Wow. And some deep contemplations that led up to it for many years. Um, and I did have that feeling when I finished it, like a, like I'd just written a kind of really great opera or something, you know, like, and I, I, I had that feeling. This is gonna go way beyond my life. And it's a nice, I mean that, I guess what's, you know, what's important about it is that, um, to understand is that it's not really about the book at all. <laugh> um, that it's act that the wisdom is actually, that's why it's called Jean keys. And as we said, the wisdom is actually embedded in the physical body, in our nature.

Richard Rudd (00:12:46):
So all the stepping stones that I've created, whether they're online programs, the books that I've written, the audios, the meditations, all those journeys, um, and there are more and more that I'm layering in all the time to appeal, to all kinds of different, you know, areas of our lives, whether it's prosperity and money, or whether it's, you know, um, children and parenting or dealing with relationships or sexuality, or, you know, I'm exploring the keys in lots of different ways, shamanic ways and you know, um, all kinds of ways. So just all those journeys, they're all pointing in the same way, which is they're pointing you towards the wisdom that's already inside you. So in that sense, it doesn't need me to talk about it. It <laugh>, it needs some basic guidance. And then you do the work each, you know, person that comes to it, does the work and the, and that journey is a journey of contemplation.

Richard Rudd (00:13:46):
I call it the art of contemplation and in many ways, um, that little book I wrote, I've got it sitting here as it happens, little book, tiny little thin book, um, is more important than the actual big thick keys. And that, you know, cuz we're very impressed. Aren't we by kind of big books that kind of have a lot of layers in depth, but actually the very light Zen book that, that one that is much more about the technique and how you can apply it to your life. And it doesn't have jargon. That is like how you do it. And um, and you don't even need the other book cuz knowing how to contemplate something is knowing how to unlock the secrets of the universe cuz they're all inside us. So yes, there's nothing that the art of contemplation can't kind of handle. There's no problem. It can't solve, you know? Um, because the wisdom's in us, you know, and we, and we're yeah. Saturated with

Dr. Reese (00:14:47):
It in 2012, I went to an Ashra. I was new, very new seeker. Yeah. And I met a mystic. I didn't even know what a mystic was. And uh, he became my mentor for a few years. And one of the things that he told me that always stuck with me, he said, your practice will protect you. And so I just thought of that as you were showing me your contemplation book, because what you're saying is the practice is more important than the fluff around it or the knowledge around it. It's about the practice.

Richard Rudd (00:15:25):
Yeah, absolutely. And I sometimes make joke. I make a joke that, you know, if, if I had written this little book first, you know, um, probably no one would've paid any attention to me. Right. Um, because it's too simple. Right. And um, and people are attracted by the deep and the complex and the, you know, and so I, so the genie's book has, its kind of has its cult following. And yet this is, you know, I wrote this so that my father could understand it, you know? Right, right. And he was skeptic, you know, I wrote this so that anyone could pick it up and take it and use it and their, and their day would be different having for having read it. And you can read it in a day as well. Um, but you might reread it. <laugh> um, so yeah, it, the, the technique of contemplation is timeless and uh, just hugely powerful and very, very practical. I mean, there's no one that no matter how, you know, you, you, you could bring me the, the kind of hard cynic and, and I would be able to kind of describe to them how they can get a benefit from this. And if they apply the technique, you know, they'll immediately get a benefit in, in their life. So yeah. And they'll probably recognize it as well, but

Dr. Reese (00:16:44):
Let's, let's talk about contemplation.

Richard Rudd (00:16:46):
Sure.

Dr. Reese (00:16:48):
You know, it's a term that gets confused by many people. I recently had Dr. Roger Walsh on this podcast and you know, every time we talked about Eastern traditions, he would refer to it as contemplative traditions or contemplative wisdom. Many people would call it meditative wisdom or meditative traditions, or just Eastern wisdom tradition, or just wisdom traditions from your viewpoint. Can you explain contemplation to someone who doesn't understand and how is it different from meditation or what it could be considered a meditation?

Richard Rudd (00:17:32):
Mm, yeah, it it's a, I mean, I, I like the term contemplation because in a way it's a broad term, so it can contain many other techniques within it, you know, and meditation can be a technique that is part of the contemplative practice. And meditation is, you know, suited to some people and not suited to others. Um, you know, contemplation is, is very broad in that sense. So it, it it's about have, it's about taking an inner journey. I mean, there are very simple principles to it. Um, and it's a very simple tech basic technique. And I mean, if I describe the technique, probably it'll help understand what, you know, what it's all about. So the technique is basic. The, it has three layers. The first is called pausing. The second is called pivoting. And the third is called merging. Those are the steps and stages of doing the art of contemplation.

Richard Rudd (00:18:29):
And no matter how you're doing it, or what tradition you are from, those are principles of con of the con of any contemplated practice. And the first one is pausing, right? And actually the other two are hidden within pausing anyway. So all you really need to learn is what is pausing and how do I do it? <laugh> and it is as simple as it sounds. It means that you kind of inspire yourself or you allow life to inspire you to pause more often in your life and just be us be, and there are lots of things you can do in a pause and that, you know, a, a pause can be as short as a single breath, it can be a sight. It can be a pause between saying something and not saying something, you know, like

Dr. Reese (00:19:19):
No mind.

Richard Rudd (00:19:20):
Yeah. Or it can be, or it can be creative. It can be a very fill, you know, it can be sometimes when you are stressed and then you stop and you remember to pause and just go, I'm just gonna take some breaths or you might do a technique. It doesn't matter. But you're what you do is you're giving some space between you and the pattern that you're in. And that's the essence of contemplation is to give space between you and the pattern or you, and the current paradigm that you're caught in. And the more you give that space, then the more something magical starts to grow out of that space, those pauses. And, and I say, they, they can be short, you know, a pause. I mean, even putting your feet up and watching TV is kind of a pause, but it's, you know, it's not, it's not truly contemplative. Yeah. It's

Dr. Reese (00:20:12):
A, it's a distract pause,

Richard Rudd (00:20:14):
But it's a pause. Yeah. But it, but nonetheless, it's, it's a pause. Um, it's a single focus. Yeah. The real, the art of pausing is when you pause from watching TV, <laugh>, you know, so you're like in the middle, you'll just go, I'm gonna take, you know, I'm just, I'm gonna take a pause from this and I'm just gonna switch it off. And then you sit in the silence for a bit and whatever you've been watching, you just let it spin and you just watch it and you observe it and you see how it's affected your mind, your emotions and feelings. That's a pause. Um, and you can master the art of pausing and it instantly brings another dimension to your life. And it's so simple. It doesn't require a kind of, you know, meditation can be quite hard for a lot of Western. It's an Eastern technique, you know, and it's quite hard because we've got very trained minds.

Richard Rudd (00:21:05):
And actually one of the better ways to use contemplation is to actually use your mind in a creative way during your contemplation. So you might, you might have a visualization or you might do something physical, you know, you might place your hands on your body or your, you know, particularly one of the things I teach is putting your hands on your belly when you feel under stress and then just breathing into your hands. And, and I, I have a morning kind of contemplative practice. That's really beautiful. Um, I usually rise before the sun comes up and I sit outside, um, usually with a big wrap around me and I have little cups of tea, like this beautiful little Chinese teas that I like. And I sit and I drink my tea and I just listen. And I just dwell there for like half an hour or three quarters of an hour.

Richard Rudd (00:21:57):
And I listen to them, I let the birds come and I let thoughts come. And I let the night Dr. You know, kind of slough off and then the day arrives and it arrives inside me. And it immediately changes the entire structure of your day when you begin a day like that. Um, because you begun from a pause and you, there are, there are kind of layers of mastery to pausing. Like, you know, one of the simplest things you can do, if you have a phone is set your phone to go off every hour, um, and just ping you to pause, and then whatever you're doing at that moment, you kind of make a pat with yourself. I'm gonna pause for like three minutes, you know, or even three breaths. You know, if you can't manage it and you just, you, if you're speaking, you stop speaking.

Richard Rudd (00:22:46):
If you are driving, maybe you <laugh>. I mean, you could pull over, but if you're driving, you just breathe, you just take three deep breaths and you just come into like your body for a moment. And you'll see how, you know, you might have been angry, frustrated, impatient, right? Whatever. You might have been thinking of a thousand things, but that moment of pause creates the space for something to happen. And that, and the second stage is called the pivot pivot. Yeah. And the pivot, you know, if you take 10 pauses in a day, maybe one of them might have a pivot. You can't control when a pivot occurs, a pivot is when you catch a pattern in the middle, you know, and you break it, you know? So it might be that you are in a spin. I mean, I had a guy recently who, who is a chat taxi driver, right.

Richard Rudd (00:23:35):
Uh, I think he was a New York taxi driver and, and, and he found this teaching and he said, you've transformed my whole life because I used to have this really, um, kind of this, this relationship to red lights. <laugh> that was not positive. I, now, every time I come to a red light, if positive, I enjoy it, you know, it's like, ah, pause, you know, I wonder how long it'll be, you know, maybe a few seconds, maybe a minute or so. Yeah. But in that, you know, you start to change this, the rhythm of your life, right. And sometimes as I said, a pivot occurs. So sometimes a, some kind of a breakthrough or a change or a shift in awareness takes place inside a pause. And that's where the wisdom that we were talking about earlier can emerge from the body. It can emerge from your being, you know, and it might be that in that moment, you see something different, it's completely different.

Richard Rudd (00:24:32):
You maybe see a person that you were having a struggle with or a situation that you were battling. Um, you see it in a new light for the first time you have some kind of a, a breakthrough, you know, that's the pivot, the pivot is you, you, something shifts inside you and it shifts spontaneously. You haven't tried to shift it. I mean, you might have, you know, you might have focused on the problem, which I, I, I often recommend, you know, if you're contemplating really, there's two ways you could do it. You can contemplate on, on something that's bothering you, you know? And then it will come to a resolution. If you give it time, or you can contemplate on something that inspires you or someone that inspires you. And then you will kind of go on a journey of uplift, cuz it will steadily inspire you.

Richard Rudd (00:25:22):
And it might also solve some problems along the way, cuz you'll be kind of raising your consciousness. Um, so it's a, so I hope I'm giving an idea of the field of contemplation and, and, and there are lots of creative ways to go about it. So in my little book, for example, I, I, I kind of give lots of techniques at the back. I, I say, look, you've gotta be playful. So like one of the ways I learned contemplation or taught myself or it taught me was quite playful. I, I went to like, I had some time at that time in my life and I, and I went to like airports and things for no reason, I went to train stations. I stood in queues that I had no business being in <laugh>, you know, just, I, I went on commuter trains and things, but I wasn't a commuter.

Richard Rudd (00:26:12):
And I had a, I had several weeks of just exploring, like walking around a supermarket, filling up a trolley and then emptying it again. And just because I wanted to see what it was like having no agenda, no purpose, other than just playing in those places that sometimes we feel stressed. I mean, airports is a fantastic one. Yeah. Because there's so many stress layers in an airport and, and once you've kind of, and I'm not suggesting everyone does that, but it's, it's a way of being playful. Like you can play in the contemplative state and what it does is it changes your whole relationship to those situations. So if you are able to be contemplative in a, in a supermarket, then your journey around the supermarket, it's kind of mythical. It's, it's be, it's wonderful. It's not like you're just trying to get the food and get home. Every step of it is kind of an encounter and, and strange things happen, you know, you, because you're, you're, you're in a different space, you are more open. So sometimes you meet people that you wouldn't normally have met and people kind of respond to you differently and

Dr. Reese (00:27:21):
Well, your vibration is your vibration is increasing if you're

Richard Rudd (00:27:25):
Exactly. So

Dr. Reese (00:27:26):
If you're very present

Richard Rudd (00:27:27):
Totally. So a lot of you can have a lot of play. You can have a lot of fun within contemplation. Yeah. So let's pause and pivot and I shall I just finish with merge and then yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very simple merger. It's um, you know, a certain number after you've been doing this technique for a certain amount of time, you will have experienced, you know, quite a few of those pivotal moments. And what you don't see until later often is that you are kind of opening up gradually. You're merging, you're merging with the background consciousness of life. You're me, you're merging with something way bigger with a mystery. And the more you kind of have these pivotal experiences, the more they open up your, your heart, the more they open up your mind and the more they, they, they relax and soften your body and the processes in your body, your physical body. So it can have incredible health benefits as well because you're, you are relaxing more and more deeply in your life every day and every day, even just a little bit like every day, even just one pause in a day is a victory. You know, it's a little victory. And

Dr. Reese (00:28:46):
If it's just five seconds,

Richard Rudd (00:28:47):
Even if it's five seconds and then the cuz you it'd be like, if you get to the end of the day, you look back and you go, what was my best moment? He's probably that moment. <laugh>, you know, where you just went. Oh. Or, you know, those are the moments when things happen when magical things happen, these pivots. So eventually you start to open and then you start to respond differently. Cuz you merge, you, you move to merge with things and even difficult things, you know, even, even like aggressive things that come at you or behavior or problems or obstacles, instead of closing down in a defensive way, you start to kind of move towards them. You know, you start to open up, you start because you are trusting. So you trust anything that comes to you because your heart starts to kind of go, ah, I can trust this too.

Richard Rudd (00:29:39):
This is coming. This is part of the, you know, part of the opening. So yeah, ultimately it's its powerful spiritual path. Um, that has been trodden by countless pilgrims teachers, masters in different ways. And it's picks up and puts down any technique that it, that it needs at any point, it can try a technique like meditation, but if it gets, if you get tense through meditation, you just put it down, you go that one's not for me or at least not now. Right. And then you try something else and right. So, but it's all within the, the scope of the contemplative way. So

Dr. Reese (00:30:19):
At the end of the day, I love how you've broken all this down. But at, at the end of the day, we're trying to watch our thoughts or become separate ourselves from our thoughts because we have these patterns, you know, we're pretty much programmed by the time we're 13 years old, at least here in America. I mean

Richard Rudd (00:30:44):
Same everywhere.

Dr. Reese (00:30:45):
And, and, and we have these patterns and these thought habits and a practice like this helps us separate, you know, we're not our thoughts, we're not our body and we can take a step back and we can actually watch like a movie contemplation reminds me of the practice of self inquiry as well or Vapo mm-hmm <affirmative>. So there's like different names for, I mean, they're all maybe slightly different. Yeah. But it's all kind of the same thing, isn't it? We're trying to break the programming.

Richard Rudd (00:31:21):
Yeah. Yeah. It's like, um, some of those things like VIPA now, or, or, you know, it is a form of self inquiry. Um, they can be a bit more formal, you know, but if, if they come from a certain lineage, um, and so they have, you know, tried and tested techniques, um, you know, this is how you sit, this is how you do it. And that's very useful, you know, if that works for you. Um, so the, those approach I'm taking is more suited, I think, to the Western mind, right? It's more, it gives you more freedom of creativity, right. You know, it is more creative. And I think, you know, that's a really important component. That's been slightly missing from the Eastern techniques, you know, because they're goal driven and which is fine. And yet the contemplation I'm sharing, teaching modeling is not so goal driven.

Richard Rudd (00:32:20):
It's more playful, it's more an adventure, it's more an exploration. So the journey. So like in the supermarket, you know, you're, you're not trying to kind of be enlightened, you know, you're just wanting to explore this life and, and get more out of it, you know, and be more present. And, um, in one sense, you know, we are kind of, we've inherited this, this spiritual, um, understanding that's thousands of years old, um, from the east and it's amazing. And, and I've, you know, I'm, I've explored it deeply flawed that deeply. And, and yet we are moving into a new era and so a slightly, I there's a shift taking place. And, um, one of my friends, uh, who's a, a professor of philosophy and, um, religion, he, um, he calls it the up and out philosophy, you know, up and out the, the, the purpose of life is to be enlightened and then leave this plane. Right. And, um, and I think the next stage or evolution is, is to kind of break that down a little bit and go, well, maybe it isn't about leaving. Maybe it's about really being creative and enjoying more and bringing more awareness in, you know, heaven to earth rather than heaven up there. And we're off, you know, I'm off, I'm escaping Samara into this other, other, you know, heightened space. Right. So that, yeah, I think it's a, I think it's a great challenge. I think it's the spiritual edge of our, of our times.

Dr. Reese (00:33:59):
Yeah. So let's talk about you a little bit. <laugh>, uh, I read that you had an experience in your late twenties. Would you mind sharing that and, and was that what jump started you into all this?

Richard Rudd (00:34:12):
Um, yeah, kind of, I think it was, you know, it was definitely, yeah, it was definitely a jump start. Um, although I was kind of, when I was younger, I had, um, knowings in me. Um, but, um, yeah, in my late twenties I had a spontaneous, um, kind of awakening experience, uh, where funnily enough, I was, I was lying in better sleep and I woke up, um, into, into the state. So I woke up out of my sleep <laugh> and I woke up into a ness. It was an extraordinary experience, you know, I, I, I hadn't taken any medicine or anything like that. Mm-hmm <affirmative>, I just woke up into this, um, heightened state of consciousness, um, that lasted three days and three nights, um, in which, um, you know, it's difficult to explain, but I, I was in the, I was filled with light.

Richard Rudd (00:35:05):
I was full of light. I was, I was, you know, kind of, it was a very physical experience. It was very energetic, very dynamic, you know, light, literally the, the frequency of light was pouring through my body. And that's really where I kind of realized later that DNA itself, the fabric of our being is actually a kind of transducer of light. It contains light, and it's a port, it's a wormhole. Every one of those tiny portals that's wrapped into our chemistry that, that we're built out of is a wormhole through which light can pour. And I mean, light as intelligence. Hmm. Cause that was, I was in, I understood in those, in that state, that light was intelligence and it wasn't, it's not the light that you see cuz you can't see it, but you, you, your body sees it. You know, you're in the field of it.

Richard Rudd (00:36:01):
The, the universe is constructed of it. It's the, it's the light, the limitless light that sometimes the mystics speak of. Um, and it connects you to all things and um, it connects you to time timelessness and um, and you can, you know, you're in a universal mind. So it was kind of fun for me cuz I, I just whatever I wanted to know, I could know <laugh> so, so I spent three days just exploring the universe and going, well, what about that? What about this? Oh yeah. Um, and what about me? What do I come from? What am I, and where am I going? And all these questions, like the young kind of the young guy asks the olds and I was that young kind of,

Dr. Reese (00:36:41):
Well, it's interesting. I, I had a guest not too long ago named Spencer Clayton who has had a similar experience he's in his late twenties right now. And he said, it's just a floodgate of information was just being downloaded to him. And he calls it junk DNA.

Richard Rudd (00:37:02):
Hmm <laugh> yeah. Well, in a way, you know, our junk DNA, it cuz it makes up a major part of our genome. Um, and it's not fully understood. It's called non-coding DNA actually now. And um, they have begun to kind of ensure it that there, there may be patterns to it, but they are much more complex patterns. They're almost like fractal geometries rather than, you know, so you, so you don't read it in a linear fashion, like you read the main part of our genetic code, it's linear. Um, this junk, this non-coding DNA may be a kind of in a language that's a lot more cryptic. That's a lot more mysterious. That's actually a lot more, um, is a lot more efficient, you know, cuz it it's, it's a strange thing to kind of think that with, with the order that the universe creates to think that it would just ha 90% of us would be just wasted. Um, when in fact, you know, that 80, 90% may actually contain, you know, huge secrets, you know, huge secrets, like the secret of our, of our whole ancestral lineage.

Dr. Reese (00:38:19):
So this three day ator essentially started you on the path.

Richard Rudd (00:38:27):
Uh, it kind of, yeah, it sort of reset me. I think I was already on the path, but it kind of blew me into another, it, it kind of blew in many ways. It blew me off the path actually because <laugh>, I didn't really know what to do afterwards. Um, and I was, you know, I went through a lot of different states, um, for years depression kind of, I wanted to get back really, um, Messiah complex for a while,

Dr. Reese (00:38:55):
Dark night of the soul.

Richard Rudd (00:38:57):
Yeah. Lots of, kind of, and then, you know, denial, you know, didn't happen. It was just, you know, you know, all those sort of things. I tried a lot of different things. Eventually I kind of started to be human again and I've, I've, I' met my wife, I got married, I started to do human thing. I had a child and then things started to kind of sing again inside me and I, and I began to see a way forward. Um, and I began to, it began to kind of unravel, um, I met certain things and people in my life that, um, enabled me to start formulating the gene keys and, and like, cuz I had this wisdom download and, but it had no form or structure. And what do you do with that? What are you gonna do? You know, what do you do with that? Um, so then this structure started to appear over over years, you know, and I started to build it and I have this love of language, so, and words. So I, I started to build it out of language and concepts and ideas and shape this, uh, thing that became the Jean keys. So yeah,

Dr. Reese (00:40:04):
The ING is a big part of the Jean keys, as you mentioned, are there any other inspirations that crossed your field when you were younger that any gurus, any traditions, any books that really helped you keep going?

Richard Rudd (00:40:25):
Yeah, I think, you know, one of my first, um, traditions that I've always been very drawn to was, um, funny enough is the Chinese, um, traditions, the dos traditions. So I had dos teachers cuz when I, when I was around 19, I, I, um, someone gave me a book, um, by a teacher called ManTech cheer. And it was, you may have heard of oh yeah. And um, it was a book of, um, meditation, you know, and, and so I did this meditation in the book, um, and I had an immediate kind of experience, a kind of awakening, Kline awakening experience in my body had no. And, and after doing that, that meditation for literally five minutes, I just, my kind of body just exploded. I think it was waiting to happen. And um, and after that, after I did that, I could feel energy for the first I could feel energy and it's ne that's never left me a feeling energy outside my body and inside my body.

Richard Rudd (00:41:25):
And, and before that I couldn't, but after that I suddenly could. So I changed and, and I was quite confused by that as well. I was 19 that it was sort of there wasn't a great deal of seeking, you know, then it was, you know, I guess this the kind of eighties and stuff. And, um, anyway, I found this yoga teacher and I was telling her about, you know, kind of my slightly angsty feeling of like, why I dunno what to do with this, this knowing there's feelings and no one understands. And she said, um, why don't you go and find the teacher who wrote the book and I, and it hadn't occurred to me. I was like, oh yeah, I could actually, did you track down man tuck? So I went and studied with ManTech cheer in Thailand and in America I came to the New York and wow.

Richard Rudd (00:42:11):
Um, and I met him and I, and I, I, it wasn't, you know, he was amazing, but actually it was the people around him were even more amazing. Mm. I mean, there were just incredible, there were like cheap young teachers and, and healers and meditation and structures. I mean, he, he drew some really powerful, amazing people from all over the world. And so it was suddenly a clan and I was like this young guy in this clan of elders. And I felt like, oh, finally. And, and some of them took me under their wing and kind of showed me the ropes and, and, um, finally felt like I belonged. And, and that was a, a big journey for me. And then I, it went from there. I also ended up studying under another teacher called watching me master knee, um, who, uh, has retired to the mountains now.

Richard Rudd (00:43:00):
And, um, a wonderful man V very different from manta cheer, very, very different. Um, my touch cheer is a kind of, um, a technique master, you know, and that's where he wrote all those books and kind of revealed all these secret techniques that really pissed off a lot of Chinese people. Um, and, and watching me was more of an embodied kind of Budha, you know, Chinese Budha. And he, he taught less through technique and more through presence. And, um, so he was a beautiful man. And so that the, the, the, I was captivated by the downest way and, and the teachings of alchemy, you know, the internal alchemy, the transmuting of the shadow into the, into the, into its essence and that kind of tantric path. And yeah. So, yeah, it was a, that was a big influence, long story, but yeah. Um, and, and it, and, and another thing that came my way is called human design.

Richard Rudd (00:43:57):
And I, I should mention that because it was a pivot, it was a kind of real key for me understanding the Jean keys and, um, a man called RA who had had a revelation in the eighties. And he, and that revelation brought together the eing with, um, with a kind of new version of, of the Sharas and astrology as well. And it combined all those things that were became part of the Jean keys, the pillars. Um, but then, um, the Jean keys kind of went a little bit in a different direction from human design. And I kind of moved on from that after a while, but yeah, it was a, it was a real key, um, seminal teaching and it still has a lot of value to it. And many people know about it now. Yeah.

Dr. Reese (00:44:46):
And recently your, your father passed away. Yeah. How, how did you, how'd you deal with that?

Richard Rudd (00:44:52):
Um, well, you know, I think E everyone has different kind of ways of grieving and different processes, and he was 94, you know, he, he did actually die of COVID, but, um, you know, other things as well, and, and he was 94 and had a good life, you know, and, and so he had to die of something, you know? Right. And he was kind of, he died peacefully at home and, um, you know, he made a, he, he had an impact in the world and, and was a, as a really good moral man. And, um, so letting him go has been quite easy in that respect. And, and also, I, in some other respect, I feel even closer to him now than I ever did, cuz he had that English gentleman sort of upbringing. And so there was always that slight veneer that kind of, you know, he was very available at some level, but not totally because of his upbringing, British upbringing.

Richard Rudd (00:45:54):
And uh, so now I kind of feel more connected to him than ever, um, in my heart. And it's a process of, you know, it's, it's, it's more than just, you know, letting my father goes well, it's suddenly brought up, you know, more grief around my mother and um, uh, who I'm, who I'm, who, because it's the whole lineage. And, and so I'm, you know, it's a strange experience. It's very, it's still quite fresh in me. So yeah. Um, it's, it's a, it's a process, but this year, this last year I have my contemplation ongoing has been very about death and I lost another very close friend early in the year, last year. And, um, and we had conversations leading up to his death about incarnation and reincarnation and things and, and it was very, we were very kind of cl you know, the conversations were amazing, the dialogues.

Richard Rudd (00:46:53):
Um, and so I was really exploring this notion of the continuity of consciousness yeah. And became interested in ideas of reincarnation and lineage and, and where I've come from and where I'm going. And, and it was an experience I had in my field of light ex you know, that I, in the timeless domain, I kind of saw past lives and remembered even future lives. And it kind of made a bit of a mockery of time <laugh>. And so I, and I held I've carried that ever since. And I'm really interested in what are the mechanisms behind the algorithms literally behind incarnation itself?

Dr. Reese (00:47:37):
You've, you've seen your cache records.

Richard Rudd (00:47:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so I I'm, I'm very much in that contemplation at the moment and I, and did some great, uh, had some wonderful, uh, dialogues this year with Chris be who's you you'd be a good person to interview him. Um, uh, B a C H, and he's written this amazing book called, um, DNA in the mind of the U uh, LSD in the mind of the universe. And, um, he's an incredible man and, uh, really, uh, lucid, uh, speaker and thinker. Um, and we did, we've done a series of dialogues together on contemplating reincarnation, um, quite sophisticated actually. Um, and in terms of where we went, that coming out in the next month or so, and, um, that's been a real eyeopener for me and a heart opener as well. Um, because it's not something that's talked about so much in spiritual circles.

Richard Rudd (00:48:37):
I mean, there's kind of wackier circles and there's a therapeutic, um, kind of following it has, you know, where it's used in, you know, aggression therapy and things, but a lot of the sort of well known teachers of the day don't go near it, it's which I find interesting. Um, and, uh, and I like to, I like to kind of travel these edges. So I'm finding it a really a rich field of contemplation. Um, and I, and it's opening up a kind of bigger dimension of understanding time and also understanding this time that we're in that this epoch that we're in and the, and the changing epoch that we're moving into. Um, and it, it kind of loosens a lot of the anxiety that people might feel understanding a, a wider view of, of, you know, the, the process of the unraveling of humanities, higher nature and how it moves through these thresholds of crisis. Um, yeah. And how they're not to be feared. Um, but they're be to be embraced and, you know, they need and create anxiety, you know, and that doesn't mean we shouldn't meet, meet the challenges, you know, we should, we should totally meet them with passion. Sure. Uh, and yet not be overwhelmed by them. It's not necessary. You know, that they're, this is very, very special times. Like the one we're in now,

Dr. Reese (00:50:11):
You know, death is a big topic on this podcast, comes up a lot. And is isn't that the isn't that the, the job of a mystic is to sort of get ready to die? Uh, absolutely. To be ready to yeah. Embrace it. You never know. I mean, recently, one of the most famous people in the world tiger woods, major car accident, he was trapped in the car for upwards of 15 minutes before any authorities got there. He wasn't, according to the story, he was not knocked out. So he's laying there, stuck in a car. What do you do? You, you meditate or contemplate you, you, you, that's my thought, you know? And so <affirmative>, and so, uh, that's why I wanted to, uh, bring that up with, with your father and, you know, you've explored all of this. So that's why I was wondering how you handled it and how it affected you.

Richard Rudd (00:51:19):
Well, you know, I, I re I had this deep revelation last year. Uh, um, which three words really? Um, well, is it three, four <laugh>, uh, eternity is our home. You know, those were the words that came to me, our true, my, you know, my true home is, is eternity. And that's a sentence that you could contemplate, you know, if you really go into that and you go my, what does that, you know, what does that feel like? What does that look like? If that, if that's, if I take that in, at the deepest level, how might that transform my entire life? You know? And because then you no longer need fear death because you know, we're eternal. And I, I often say this people, I, we are, I know it, so it, it, and, and it needs to be said,

Dr. Reese (00:52:12):
<laugh>, you've seen it. You felt it.

Richard Rudd (00:52:14):
Yeah. It needs to be said and

Dr. Reese (00:52:16):
Being, you know,

Richard Rudd (00:52:17):
Yeah. We live in a, in a, in a world that's kind of has a, a very strange, you know, forgetfulness, um, to me and, and many others actually, you know, there are, if you dig beneath the surface of many people, they kind of know this truth, you know?

Dr. Reese (00:52:36):
Yeah. Go the Buddha called it nothingness.

Richard Rudd (00:52:42):
Yeah.

Dr. Reese (00:52:44):
Put a negative spin on it instead of making it this big, bold, yeah. Ultimate.

Richard Rudd (00:52:50):
Yeah. That, that, that is the, the Buddhist spin. And, and it, it can be seen as, as a frightening word that, and yeah. Um, you know, at the, at the center of every galaxy is a black hole, you know, is, uh, you know, at the center of everything is the unmanifest, you know, so, you know, we move through these periods of it's the pause, you know, we, we move into the pause, we move into the unmanifest and, and then we suddenly become more alive than ever before. So really that's what death is. Death is becoming more alive than you could possibly conceive of, you know, only anyone who's had a near death experience will tell you this. And there, there are millions of them.

Dr. Reese (00:53:34):
Yeah. I have, I have them on this podcast all

Richard Rudd (00:53:36):
The time. Yeah. I bet. And you, I bet you hear the same things

Dr. Reese (00:53:39):
Nothingness. <laugh> not everyone uses that word, but it's, it's the, the, the, the black, the blackness mm-hmm <affirmative> with a feeling of love.

Richard Rudd (00:53:50):
Yeah.

Dr. Reese (00:53:52):
Yeah. And this is what Ram does kind of coined, uh, loving awareness love. So it's, it's, it's a combination of love and awareness, but everyone keeps talking about the color black. It's always a, a blackness

Richard Rudd (00:54:09):
Yeah.

Dr. Reese (00:54:10):
Space is black.

Richard Rudd (00:54:11):
Yeah. And we're scared of black, you know? Um, right. And, and so we have to make friends with it. It's it doesn't, it doesn't mean, you know, it's not that kind of emptiness.

Dr. Reese (00:54:24):
Right.

Richard Rudd (00:54:25):
You know, it's, it's, it's everything. It's, it's the everything. I mean, I that's my style as a teacher, I'm an everything teacher, rather than a nothing teacher. That's why, when you look at the junkies, it's like, oh my God. It's like, this has got everything in it. <laugh>

Dr. Reese (00:54:40):
Yeah. Well, E you know, Westerners don't wanna hear about the nothing. It's, it's a, it's a bit pessimistic to them.

Richard Rudd (00:54:51):
It can seem that way. Yeah.

Dr. Reese (00:54:55):
What are the seven sacred seals?

Richard Rudd (00:54:59):
That's a, that's a great question. No one usually asks me that question. Um, well, there are revelation, uh, that came from St. John and, um, from the, you know, from the book of revelation, um, that's historically what they are, and they're very cryptic piece of writing. Um, and anyway, so part of my, one of my journeys, um, with the Jean keys, one of the revelations that kind of unfolded for me was the understand a new understanding of what the seven seals really are. And, and so my understanding is that they are portals of grace. You know, they are, they are they're fields of grace. And, um, they relate to the seven shacks from the Hindu system. They relate to seven Arcan jewels, or seven body sackers or seven saints. And, and so they are, again, universal codes. They relate to the seven colors, you know, the seven days of the week, the seven tones of the Octa, all those things are connected to.

Richard Rudd (00:56:07):
So they're universal, um, revelation. And yet my understanding of them is that they UN, they, they unravel in layers both on an individual level, you know, just as we kind of open up to higher, higher states of consciousness, but they also unravel in layers as a species, the seven veils that are cast over reality. And as each one is, is unveiled, or it reveals another layer of what I call the sacred wound. And the sacred wound is the reason for suffering, you know, that the higher purpose of suffering. And so for us to kind of gain a full awakening experience, we have to understand, we have to move into the sacred wound. We have to move into the heart of suffering of our suffering and not just our suffering, but the world suffering the, the cosmos suffering. And that sounds scary to some people, but it isn't, it's like that black hole, you just, the wider you open your heart, you know, the less scar it becomes because you just receive more of it, you know?

Richard Rudd (00:57:15):
And so the seven seals are like the layers of grace that heal the layers of the wounding, um, inside us in a sequence. And, um, my understanding through Genki and through teachings called the golden path teachings, which are online, a sort of self-study series that unravels, um, is that our awakening unravels in a sequence, you know, again, it's algorithms and numbers and sequences, and, and that's how our DNA works in sequences. And it unzips in layers and, and the heart opens like that as well. So, I mean, for some people, the heart, you know, awakening might be an instant thing. That's fairly rare, but for others, it's a gradual unraveling. Yeah. You know, as layer upon layer opens, like, as I was just explaining at the beginning with contemplation and pivoting and merging, it's a gradual opening up into a deeper revelation. So, um, the seven seals describe kind of, you know, those universal pivots for the whole of the species, not just individual, but the whole species, you know, and, and that was a big revelation for me, cuz I realized that he, humanity, you know, has, has these veils over the it, but actually we are a collective consciousness, you know, and that, you know, our, our next phase of evolution will be to start to realize that, um, yeah.

Richard Rudd (00:58:46):
And begin modeling it. And that means that everything at, at a, at a, even a genetic level will probably change, you know? So we will begin to change, we'll begin to mutate as a species

Dr. Reese (00:59:00):
Or evolving still

Richard Rudd (00:59:01):
Yeah. Evolve. Exactly. But in, in times, you know, like in the past human species has mutated and, and we will mutate again. And so the seven seals are like part of that journey of like, we are changing, you know? Mm.

Dr. Reese (00:59:19):
How do you feel about the law of it's a very, you know, famous now over the last 10, 15 years, you know, some people I've heard many mystics say, uh, stay away from that. And other people who really, really put their attention on it and they're trying to manifest whatever it is that they want. What, what's your approach to that?

Richard Rudd (00:59:44):
Um, it's, you know, I think it's, uh, there's a, there's a level of truth to it and there's also a lever, a level of, um, illusion to it. Hmm. Um, I, I, I kind of coined a, a law <laugh> didn't coin it, but I just described a, a law that I feel is, um, more important to know before you even think about the law of attraction, which is the law of unseen grace and the law of unseen. Grace says, um, that what you have right now is exactly what you need. And furthermore, the thing that you really don't want is the thing that you need to unpack the most, because it, it has the most juice in it. And, and so trying to kind of, you know, the law of attraction is, is nothing kind of bad about it, but it's like, it can distract us from accepting what we have right now and what we have right now, as I said, you know, like the shadow that we have is actually where we need to really be PA you know, the suffering is where we need to really pay our attention. Yeah. Not like,

Dr. Reese (01:00:57):
Yeah. If, if we're trying to manifest a new car, you know, or more money, that's, you know, it could be considered greed, which could be considered a quote unquote sin or the opposite direction of the spiritual path.

Richard Rudd (01:01:12):
Yeah. And there's also, I, I, you know, I, don't the one teacher that I really deeply respect. Who's not alive and I've never met, um, Bulgarian teacher called Banza doo. Who's been a big, had a big impact on me. Um, he, um, he said that everything has to be paid for <laugh> and, and it was a kind of, it was it's, uh, it caught my attention and the way he described it, he said, you know, if you, um, if you, if you attract, um, you know, a new car, a shiny new car, and then somewhere that has to be paid for yes. <laugh>, you know, and someone has paid for it. Yes. And the resources have gone into it have been, you know, and you now carry that.

Dr. Reese (01:02:03):
Yeah. So this could be where the phrase making a deal with the double comes from.

Richard Rudd (01:02:08):
Yeah. So, so I would just caution people to be careful. And it's, it's like, it's great to dream of what you wish. That's like, you know, but the law of unseen grace gives you what you need <laugh> and that's, you know, and, and I mean, one of the things I've understood from, uh, again, through these sequences in the golden path teachings, my teachings is that, um, there are three layers, again, I'd like three, so you have purpose and then partnership and then prosperity. And it's in that order, that's the sequence. So first of all, you have to really understand what is my purpose now, and you don't have to understand it like in, in a mental way. So it's not about going, oh, I'm here to do this. It's, you've gotta resonate the beingness of your purpose, you know, and that's a physical feeling in your body.

Richard Rudd (01:02:58):
Like I'm, you know, it's a, it's a sense of being, it's a sense of knowing who I am in my body. And, and so once you've kind of understood that and you've IBI that then partnership is the second one love. So relationship, the path of relationships, you know, open up to you and the path of love, and you need purpose first in a way in order that you can be clear in a relationship, you don't then get tangled up with someone else's purpose. Like this is me, this is, this is what I'm here for, you know, and then you can have a clear, clean relationship and you can progressively then work at that wounding in your heart and open and use the relationships in your life to open your heart more and more and more. And that's, I call that the Venus sequence teachings, which, which is an incredible set of teachings from that I, that were revealed, um, to me as part of the genies, um, many doing a retreat right now that, uh, many thousands of people, um, online, um, working through their venous sequence, which is the sequence that kind of helps you understand the childhood wounding patterns, um, that get in the way of you loving fully, right?

Richard Rudd (01:04:10):
So it uses our relationships specifically, whatever they are, um, parents, children, wives, husbands, whatever partners, you know, whatever you've got in your life, that those relationships it uses. But then the third one is prosperity. And that's where I wanted to come to. Is that prosperity really only dawns after the heart has opened, you know, so it's a byproduct of opening the heart. So you can't buy part and prosperity is also not often what you think it is. Like, it may not be a shiny car. It may be a shiny car because we're here to play. Right. So, but it depends on play, play in creation. Yeah. But it, so it depends, but if it comes to you through, it's gotta come to you through the right way. You, you know, if you try and take a shortcut and you haven't done the hard work and you haven't done the shadow work, then yeah. You may have an additional burden that you're carrying that you, you know, that comes back to haunt you. Whereas if it falls from the bow, you know, it's like, if it falls from the bow and you catch it and it's like, ah, thank you. As opposed to going out and grabbing it and pulling it before it's ripe,

Dr. Reese (01:05:23):
You know? Yeah. My, my first mentor, the mystic I told you about earlier, I brought this to him and he, he said, eh, he said, you know, his exact words is the beloved takes care of me. The beloved takes care of me. The guy owned the bag, Richard a bag. He was a wandering mystic. He went from ashram to ashram. There was no greed. And he just said, the, the beloved takes care of me. I just, I was taught to just do your best. Hmm. If you just do your best, if you, whether you're washing the dishes or you're at your job, you just do your best and whatever it is, this universe it'll just take care of you. Is that similar to the unseen grace?

Richard Rudd (01:06:11):
Totally. That's exactly what it's exactly the same thing. Yeah. Okay. He said it in a more simple and elegant way than I did. <laugh>

Dr. Reese (01:06:22):
Did, do you know that Mike Tyson read the gene keys? Have you heard that?

Richard Rudd (01:06:25):
Well, I did hear that. Um, he said it, I didn't read it or listened to it.

Dr. Reese (01:06:30):
Yeah. Yeah. He said it on the Joe Rogan show.

Richard Rudd (01:06:33):
I did hear that.

Dr. Reese (01:06:34):
Yeah. That's a big plug for you. <laugh>

Richard Rudd (01:06:39):
Well, maybe. Yeah.

Dr. Reese (01:06:40):
I,

Richard Rudd (01:06:41):
But I, I hope it helped him.

Dr. Reese (01:06:43):
Yeah. He, you know, he's on the spiritual path, you know, you can tell he's very vulnerable and very, he goes through these mood swings where he cries Mike Tyson crying. You know what I mean?

Richard Rudd (01:06:55):
Yeah. I dunno much about him, but yeah.

Dr. Reese (01:06:57):
And so, uh, that's one of the ways I heard about the gene keys.

Richard Rudd (01:07:02):
Oh,

Dr. Reese (01:07:02):
Wow. And I also have a friend named Cody who's fair, huge advocate of the gene keys. She does the readings. She she's really into it. And I, I, I went to her when I booked you for this podcast. And I said, you got any questions? I'll, I'll ask them. Yeah. So she came up with two. Great. And that is how can the gene keys be used in health and healing of the physical body? Do you see this becoming something?

Richard Rudd (01:07:35):
Well, as I described like earlier then, you know, the, the out of contemplation itself is a cleansing of the, of the physical. It, it, you know, it, it moves us into a, into a phase of healing because we're slowing down, you know, we're slowing down our, our kind of our addictive ha patterns, you know, we're breaking them. And what that does is it breaks strings. You might call them karma that have been holding back, you know, energy and vitality and light from flowing through our body, from flowing through our subtle body. You might say, from throwing, flowing through us. So in that sense, um, it's a whole, it's a whole body system. It's a, it's a, he it's a healing system, but at a different level from going into symptoms and going, and that's not to say that it couldn't do that, but I, it's not, that's not been my journey with it.

Richard Rudd (01:08:41):
And that may be something that emerges more in the times ahead. And, um, you know, I have a dear friend of mine. Who's a, who's a doctor. And he's been talking to me for a long time saying, come on, we gotta do something I want to, I want to angle the Jean keys into healing more and helping. And, and so we are contemplating ways of doing that. Um, uh, and I'm sure it will go in that direction in some way, but, and, and many people are using it, you know, maybe many medics or, you know, psychologists and people already using it in their own life. But essentially, I, I, I always feel like, you know, the ultimate healing is, you know, to kind of, to awaken and to release ourself from unhealthy patterns, you know, and to do this alchemical transformation will work. And then our, our BI, our physical health is a byproduct.

Richard Rudd (01:09:39):
Um, and part of our pivoting is to let go our body lets go of things. You know, the deepest layers of contemplation are actually in the physical body. So the outmost is mental contemplation. You know, that's where you begin, you begin by thinking about it, this stuff. And then as you think about it, more and more, it starts to get into your emotional body. Sure. And you begin to, you begin to feel it at work, you begin to, it begins to impact your feelings and how you feel and the, those shadow patterns and your defenses and things. But the deepest layer is when it hits the physical body and a pattern is spontaneously released at a genetic level somewhere inside us or at a neurological level, you know, or at an endocrine level, you know, something, it opens up pathways inside us that there's no other way we would've reached them or there may have been other ways, but it's a very direct way. So yeah. Uh, and I dunno if that's an answer to Cody. Yeah.

Dr. Reese (01:10:38):
But how about fear? Like for example, what if somebody's having chest pains? Um, it, it could just be heartburn. It's not a heart attack, but the mind, the mind has this pattern of fear and then it, once, once it grabs, hold of it, all these vision, these horrible visions may come up from someone, how can contemplation in the G keys help someone, you know, switch that?

Richard Rudd (01:11:06):
Well, I teach a really simple technique. I teach it over and over and over again. And it is really the kind of, you know, I learned it from the downest and it's placing the hands on the belly and uh, and

Dr. Reese (01:11:19):
Feel the breathing,

Richard Rudd (01:11:21):
Taking the breath down to the belly and if necessary, you know, stroking down to the belly like this, um, and then bringing the energy down and maybe spiraling very gently. And you know, what you're doing is you're loving yourself out. You are loving yourself into the body, but you're loving yourself through the pattern. You know, you're parenting yourself through the fear. And, and my other, another thing I, I sometimes say is fear is safe. You know, to let people know fear is safe, you know, and I know it sounds like a paradox. So if you are in a fear pattern or a shadow pattern, it's deep, it's, it's manifesting through your body, it's in your breath, you know, your breath shortens your, your belly tenses. And so by placing your hands down there and just breathing and, and just being with yourself in a loving way, as though you are, as though you're touching the child inside you, you're actually doing one of the deepest pieces of work you could ever do.

Richard Rudd (01:12:20):
And it's always in the belly that, because that's the, that's our core, you know, that's the, that's the core of all our tensions, you know, because the Naval is in there. That's our little black hole, you know, that's our, that's our, that's where every, our life began there. So all the tension that we hold at the deepest level is kind of layered around that Naval, you know? And, and, and then it comes out and then it spreads into areas of the body. Um, and it affects organ systems and stuff. So when we do that work again, we're going right to the source. And it's such a simple, beautiful thing. If you ever feel anxiety, if you feel depression, if you feel any of those things, those are physical things. You bring yourself back into the body, back into the belly. You bring, you allow the breath

Dr. Reese (01:13:11):
To come back into reality. Yeah. So what's more real than our breathing. Yeah. We do it every few seconds. <laugh>

Richard Rudd (01:13:19):
Exactly. But the touch is also important, you know? Yeah. Touching and stuff like

Dr. Reese (01:13:25):
That. I like it. Her other question was what advice would you give to people who are feeling overwhelmed with the state of our world? It's kind of crazy out there right now.

Richard Rudd (01:13:40):
Yeah. Yeah. Well,

Dr. Reese (01:13:44):
It's been wild in America this last year. I don't know if you heard.

Richard Rudd (01:13:47):
It certainly has. You know,

Richard Rudd (01:13:55):
When you, you know, when you come, I would say pause, you know, at a practical level, learn, learn to pause regularly and, and do this contemplative thing. Because what it does is it opens you up to other realities. You know, it brings it, it releases the wisdom of the body and that, and once the body starts to feel safe in the world, then the minds let's go of all the worries that it holds about the future. And you know, why things are the way they are and your body comes back into trust. You know, it starts to trust. That's why holding of the belly is so key. Like these things I've been saying are like, so key pausing, holding the belly, just breathing, just being with, you know, creating spaces in your life, being playful in your approach, being very gentle with yourself. You know, what it does is it just begins to kind of chip away at those stress patterns.

Richard Rudd (01:14:58):
And then when the body starts to feel safe again and takes some time, then the mind isn't spinning. And so you, you realize that everything that's happening in the universe is, is happening according to a, a beautiful kind of pattern. And even the, you know, when the tornado comes and spins and we're caught it, like we still, we can even trust that, you know, we can even trust the crisis. You know, we can even trust death because it will deliver us to another truth, to a deeper truth, to a deeper layer. So coming into that trust in the body is really the best thing that I could suggest for someone cuz it it's it's. Yeah.

Dr. Reese (01:15:47):
It's interesting. You said tornado. That's one of the things that gives me anxiety. <laugh> those tornado warnings, man. <laugh>

Richard Rudd (01:15:55):
Well, I tell you there's a big one coming to the whole planet, you know, and, and Jeanie's, I, there's all these names for there's lovely names, very pic picture pictorial names. Um, and there's these thing called the code on rings and they describe like groupings of keys that are mystically encoding, the destiny of humanity. That's all I say, like my, if you wanna know more, you come and study genies. Oh my gosh. And um, and anyway, so those code on rings, they have names and the one that's kind of triggering all the others right now is the code on ring of the whirlwind. It's called the ring of the whirlwind and it contains two keys, 55 and 49. And those two keys, 49 is rebirth and 55 is freedom. And so that's what they're doing, but they also contain deep fears, you know, and they're releasing deep fears.

Richard Rudd (01:16:49):
The 55 is the victim and the 49 is reaction, you know, emotional reaction patterns. So those two together, the way they're working, operating through the whole genome of humanity is releasing us into a new layer of freedom, you know, and, and cutting through some of these old reactive, violent patterns that are held in our memory, you know, so that we kind of abridge to a new, you know, so we have to let go into that whirlwind really. And it's coming and it's, um, it's beginning now really, you know, it's yeah, it's brewing. And I think it's gonna pick up a lot of pace and put us through quite a process. Um, yeah. <laugh>

Dr. Reese (01:17:35):
Well, explain this last thing before I let you go, peace is hidden in conflict.

Richard Rudd (01:17:45):
Yeah. I mean the same, you know, that's what I say that the, you know, every shadow contains a gift and um, you know, in every gene key, there's a shadow, there's a gift. And then there's an essence, a city, I call a city, a divine, you know, treasure a, you know, a kind of a seed of grace. So, you know, when you take the seed and the shadow is the seed, and then if you explore that shadow and you really embrace that shadow that suffering and you really get to know it and then whatever it is, you move through its transformation, then it flowers into a gift and, and, and that flowering goes on and on and on in your life. And as it flowers one day, it even beca it, a fruit emerges, you know, it's a seed, a flower and a fruit and the fruit, you know, is this is peace.

Richard Rudd (01:18:44):
You know, like, so if you start with conflict and then you begin to understand conflict, cuz it's the sixth gen key, right? It's number six and the pan. And so, you know, conflict is the shadow. It's the universal shadow, you know, and to, and the purpose of conflict is to, is to learn something from it. So as we learn from conflict, what we learn is we learn the art of diplomacy. You know, we learn, we learn how to interact with someone in a way that's authentic that, um, honors them and honors us, honors the highest self in them and honors the higher self in us. And in all our relationships, you know, we then conflict, the purpose of conflict then becomes something positive because it makes us under, it makes us more empathic. It makes us more human. It makes us more forgiving. It makes us more understanding.

Richard Rudd (01:19:37):
It opens us up into this field of learning how to be diplomatic. And that doesn't mean how to kind of, that's not a technique dip. It means diplomacy at the deepest level. Every, you know, that's a human gift to know when to say something. And when not to say something, you know, to hold it back, like if you wanna say something mean and you hold that back, that's a good thing. <laugh> right. Sometimes it's okay to let it out. But like, if you have the self awareness to hold it back from being said, then, then it won't propagate the conflict. And you might find another way then of saying it a more diplomatic, a more empowering way. Right. So that eventually diplomacy leads it, it goes on flowering and it becomes to the awareness that peace, that pieces, everything, peace, every step peace has been there all along. Yeah. You know, it's like the greatest trick of the gods to hide or you or the universe is to hide the highest states of consciousness in suffering. <laugh>

Dr. Reese (01:20:39):
Right.

Richard Rudd (01:20:40):
You know, so it's like, cause the last place where most humans want to look right. That's why I said, and when I began this whole, you know, thing with you, I said, you know, you have to be ready for the Jean keys teachings. You know, anyone can start with contemplation. Yeah. But Jean keys a little bit more advanced cuz you kind of have to be ready for the shadow work. Right. You know, and that takes a bit of courage. It does. Um, yeah. So once you go into it, it reveals deeper and deeper and deeper layers, uh, of, yeah. Um, you know, grace

Dr. Reese (01:21:09):
Well said.

Richard Rudd (01:21:09):
Yeah. And ultimately peace.

Dr. Reese (01:21:12):
Well that's what this podcast is all about. I hope that others will hop on Amazon, go get the gene keys and the art of contemplation two great books, Richard Rud. This has been a, a great conversation. You know, we should do it again. Maybe in nine months, 12 months,

Richard Rudd (01:21:31):
Happy to Kevin. It's nice to

Dr. Reese (01:21:32):
Meet you. There's there's more to talk about.

Richard Rudd (01:21:34):
Yeah. Yeah. There's

Dr. Reese (01:21:35):
I always something to talk about.

Richard Rudd (01:21:37):
Yeah. And I, I love your, um, I love your energy. You're really kind of open, you know, you have a gentleness and authenticity and thank you. I really appreciate that.

Dr. Reese (01:21:47):
Thanks.

Richard Rudd (01:21:48):
I'd like to know a bit more about you, so yeah. Okay. Anytime, maybe next time we can have a dialogue where you can share a bit more as well.

Dr. Reese (01:21:54):
Right? Absolutely. Well thank you for coming on.

Richard Rudd (01:21:58):
Yeah. It's a pleasure.

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